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Around the Web – Posts on Spanking, Domestic Violence, Patriarchy and More

With the departure of summer, “people from away” are slowly filtering out of Maine and life is balancing out once again for those of us whose livelihood is impacted by the tourism industry.  The last four months have been insanely busy for me and Becky.  There hasn’t been the space in our lives to write, but that will change over this fall and winter.  We look forward to getting back in the swing of blogging and vlogging for you!

I promised to share my Imago Dei presentation from our women’s retreat earlier this month, and I will get to that later this week hopefully.  I am always checking in with my favorite blogs and keeping track of important conversations that are happening, so today I want to share some links with you to posts that have had me thinking.  I’m whetting your appetite with a quote from each post, and I hope you are able to read some of these in their entirety.

ON SPANKING

Why Jesus Wants You to Stop Spanking Your Kids – Benjamin Corey (also, you can listen to Ben talk about spanking, domestic violence and ISIS on That God Show: Episode 7)

When one considers the fact that studies overwhelmingly show that spanking is seriously harmful to children, that it damages their brains, lowers their IQ’s, reduces their ability to make good choices, increases their aggression/violence, and leads to a pattern of negative behaviors that simply require more violence on the part of the parent, the scientific evidence against spanking should be clear. When a Christian couples that scientific evidence with the nonviolent teachings of Jesus from the New Testament, along with a warning from Jesus himself that it would be better to be thrown into the sea than to harm a child, there aren’t many arguments left to support the old way of doing things.

I love you, therefore I hit you…er, SPANK you. {How Christians conflate love with violence} – Elizabeth Esther

Now, let’s talk about “hostile attribution bias.” This means you live your life expecting people to be mean to you. UM. WHOA. Hi, self. My ingrained response to the world is that people are mean and scary and out to get me. I am constantly surprised when people love me–and I have to repress the urge to be suspicious when they are kind.

Here’s my default thought process: What do they want from me? Why are they being nice? They must have an ulterior motive! Don’t they know I’m a bad person? I can’t trust them! BLOCK THEM OUT.

The hardest thing for me to do is receive love. There, I said it. I have a huge fear of intimacy because I just don’t trust people. This is my trauma wound.

I can’t go back and change my past. But I can change my future. I don’t have to perpetuate the cycle of violence. I can do something different. You can, too. Our children deserve it.

In which I talk about spanking – Sarah Bessey (she lists great resources for further reading)

The short list of why I don’t spank

  1. Personally, I believe it’s morally wrong to strike a child. Also, it isn’t Biblical.
  2. Hitting teaches hitting as a solution.
  3. It creates an adversarial relationship between parents and children – Us vs. Them.
  4. It can easily lead to abuse.
  5. It doesn’t work over the long term.
  6. It promotes anger or gives place to anger in both the parent and the child.
  7. It doesn’t teach inner discipline.
  8. It creates a behavioural response out of fear instead of love.

ON GENDER EQUALITY IN THE CHURCH

women, men & church: what hurts, what helps – Kathy Escobar (here are her “what helps,” but you should really read the whole post and consider “what hurts.”)

Here are some tangible and practical “best practices” that can help us move toward greater equality in the church:

  • Friendship. This is a core practice that opens doors to equality. We’ve got to find ways to practice being true friends together.
  • Be intentional about inviting, including, empowering, and releasing women into all levels of leadership. It won’t drop out of the sky so needs to be clear and strong message–“we need you, we want you, and here’s how we can make this happen.
  • Pay properly and equally. Period. Figure it out.
  • Avoid gender-biased comments (on both sides) about looks, athleticism, feelings, and other stereotypical ways of viewing both sexes.
  • Create intentional and brave conversations about gender in our communities–places to share, evaluate, process, adopt new practices together.
  • Ask at every table of leadership: how can we make room, make this table more balanced, who’s missing?
  • Recognize the realities of childbearing and honor it completely. That means keeping positions open, building flexible schedules, re-thinking the plans for advancement in churches & ministries.
  • The older generation of both men and women mentoring, supporting, encouraging, calling-out the younger generation of female leaders. Not just women supporting women but men and women supporting men and women.
  • Consider how to support women practically and tangibly through seminary and then ministry related to childcare help, books, mentorship, and financial support.
  • Start naming the elephant in the room before certain meetings and planning sessions get started–“We know women haven’t had an equal voice in this before. How can we shift that dynamic in here right now so everyone is heard?
  • Conference organizers and local have a solid and clear list of female speakers to draw from and use them; intentionally work toward balance.
  • Men showing up for gender equality conversations as much as women do (I added this one).

Women Like Me Are Abused Worldwide.  Here’s Why. – Anne Graham Lotz

If you doubt that sin is the root of the discrimination of women, look at Jesus. He was raised in a religious culture where people were taught that women, at the very least, were much less then men. As a rabbi (as his disciples called him), he should have discriminated against women as every other man did. But there was a significant difference between Jesus and everyone else. He had no sin in his heart.

As a result, we see him. . .

honoring women as he did when Mary anointed him with oil during a dinner in Simon’s home,

singling women out for praise as he did the widow who placed her “mite” in the temple treasury,

caring for women as he did the desperately ill woman who reached out to touch the hem of his garment,

protecting women as he did the one caught in adultery who was in danger of being stoned to death,

giving women new purpose and elevated status as he did the ones who were the first to encounter him after his resurrection and were commissioned by him to go tell the men what they had seen and experienced.

The New Wine of the Kingdom: Equality in the Church – Brian Wiele

You drink what the host is pouring… but unfortunately, within a short period of time after the New Testament era, church leadership rudely refused to drink what the host had poured, and declared, just as Jesus had predicted, that the old wine of patriarchal dominance would serve the church just fine.

Catholic, Orthodox, Evangelical Protestant – the majority of the distinctive church families have continued to trot out their preferred vintage – sometimes with new labels on it like complementarian – and then audaciously decreed it to be the blend that Jesus preferred and recommended. They control the cellar, and their hierarchical vintage is thus the only one poured. As a result, anyone advocating that the church drink of the new spirit of equality is at best considered suspicious and liberal, and at worst divisive and heretical.

I’m convinced that Jesus poured a new wine – men and women, both created in his image – into new wineskins, a Trinitarian model of shared leadership.  Throw whatever labels you like at me, the refreshing blend of gender equality will continue to be served in my congregation. I’m drinking what was poured for me in order to honor the one who poured it, Jesus Christ.

ON MISOGYNY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PATRIARCHY

Changing the Culture that Enabled Mark Driscoll: 6 Ways Forward – Rachel Held Evans (read Rachel’s fantastic elaboration on these 6 ways forward:)

1.  We must educate Christians about abuse, bullying, and misuse of power in church settings.
2. We must value and preserve accountability.
3.   We must take misogyny and homophobia seriously.
4.  We must measure “success” by fruit of the Spirit, not numbers.
5.   We must protect people over reputations.
6.  We must treat our pastors and church leaders as human beings–flawed, complex, and beloved by God.

The Spin of Patriarchy – a podcast with Aimee Byrd and Rachel Miller (with links to related posts).  They discuss these questions:

On the surface, Patriarchy families may look very harmless and even attractive. Everyone wears a smile, they tend to have a quiverfull of obedient children that they homeschool, and they present to you a formula for success. But what exactly does the husband and father’s “authority” entail? Should a husband be a mediator for the family, acting as a priest between them and the Lord? Is a college education wasted on daughters, because they are being raised to be homemakers? What’s the deal with stay-at-home daughters? Can women work outside of the home, alongside other men? What happens if you don’t have a happy disposition that reflects positively on your father or husband? Is a woman’s worth tied to the number of children she has? Do you believe that women are always prone to rebellion and satanic deceit and therefore need to be directed into submission? Is it a sin to educate your child through a different avenue than homeschool? And how does this all play out politically?

Why I Won’t Watch #RayRice – Angela Denker

Biblical traditionalists often forget to mention that the language of submission in the Bible is grounded in mutuality. For each instruction to women, Paul has an instruction to men as well. Relationship—love–is meant to be sacrificing, loving, and kind. Violence, vengeance, of any kind is condemned from the Old Testament to the New. Vengeance is mine, says the LORD.

Jesus himself says this, in his first sermon: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me … to proclaim liberty to the captives … to set the oppressed free,” (Luke 4:18-19, quoting Isaiah).

Jesus died so that no person might lose her personhood. So that no one would be controlled, manipulated, and abused. The love Jesus practiced and preached was a love that lifted up those who were brought low; a love that set people free from the roles society gave them and left them identified by an eternal life, an eternal light that could never be extinguished.

Domestic violence puts out that light. As Janay Rice-Palmer crumples to the ground in that video, she is reduced to something less than human.


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How I Changed My Mind About Women In Leadership

I’m going to lift a post I wrote for my personal blog, a place where I keep a family journal for relatives and friends to peek in on.  This is old, written in July of 2011.  Ages ago!  🙂 

How I Changed My Mind About Women in Leadership

I was preoccupied this past winter with a controversial train of thought…at least it is in the conservative Evangelical world that I inhabit.  You can ask Logan or my cleaning buddy Bree just how much this was on my mind!  I’ve debated whether or not to share this here on the blog, and decided I would like to point out some excellent resources and document my train of thought for my own record.
First of all, it is important for me and others to acknowledge that our understanding is limited. As we dig into God’s word and grow in our relationship with Him, our understanding grows and we continually learn new things about God’s Truth.  Our perspectives are also shaped by our unique influences and experiences, and we often do not see how our culture, upbringing, religion, etc. have led us to certain conclusions.  As Mark Twain said, it’s not what a man doesn’t know that’s the problem. It’s what he thinks he knows that is in fact not true.  So I offer these thoughts in humility; this is what I have come to believe about women in ministry, but I may be mistaken, just as those who disagree with me may be mistaken. The important thing is that we eagerly seek God’s heart in the matter.
My winter journey began with a Bible study. In January, our “Beth Moore groupies” started her series called, “The Inheritance.” You can listen to this series and many more for free online!

In a nutshell, this 9-part series talks about what exactly we have inherited as co-heirs with Christ when we were adopted as sons and daughters by God.  According to Beth, our inheritance includes God’s Presence, People, and Property – a sphere of influence to build God’s Kingdom.  The borders of this property includes Intimacy with God, Our Pasts, Our Experiences, and Our Spiritual Gifts.  We must take ownership of each bit of our property for God’s glory, or else the Enemy will walk on it.  Obviously, that barely encapsulates 9 hours of teaching.  “The Inheritance” got me SO excited about being an “heiress”, and eager to “claim” my inheritance by fulfilling my calling.  Which got me thinking quite a bit about my calling…
…when I saw the former Dean of Chapel from Gordon College post a link on Facebook to a book he was recommending:

I ordered the book and read it within days of receiving it (a remarkable feat for a mother of three little ones!).  In this book, “Well-known Evangelical leaders—individuals and couples, males and females from a broad range of denominational affiliation and ethnic diversity—share their surprising journeys from a more or less restrictive view to an open inclusive view that recognizes a full shared partnership of leadership in the home and in the church based on gifts not gender.”  I was familiar with many of the 27 authors, so it was wonderful to read their personal testimonies on this topic.

I highly recommend this book.  It got me thinking about how my chapter would read, which is a good exercise for anyone–to examine how you have reached your conclusion on this topic.  My abbreviated chapter would go like this: I have loved the Lord and the Church for as long as I can remember.  A hierarchical view of authority in the Church had always made sense to me.  I believed that Paul’s teaching very clearly gives men “headship” in the church and home.  I never questioned that or had any doubts about that being God’s orderly design.  My dad was a pastor and I always deeply admired his ministry in the Conservative Baptist denomination.  I am very grateful that my father gave me self-confidence, first by giving me a strong name: Ruth Elizabeth (two women who inspired me as a child), and then by believing in me.

As a young woman in college, I had very little idea about what to do with myself when I grew up.  I majored in Music because I have musical abilities and I knew I could use music in church ministry.  The most exciting classes for me, however, were my Bible and Missions classes and my Music in Worship class.  I felt I had found my calling with my Worship class, and I decided to go to seminary after college.  I very clearly saw myself as investing in my future volunteer work, not as preparing for a “career” in ministry.

The question of women in leadership was a hot topic among fellow seminarians, and it had become a question in my mind, but not a burning one.  By this time, I had been mentored by two female seminary students, had sat under the teaching of numerous female scholars, had experienced years of leadership in student ministries in college, had taught the college Sunday School class at church, and had been the adult mentor/leader of a Christian ministry on a secular campus.  This ministry in particular was very exciting and fulfilling to me.  I was beginning to take note of strong women in the Bible and question the conservative position on women in ministry, but it was not a crucial issue in my life.

Just as suddenly as seminary was done, I was a new mother and had an overwhelming existence as a housewife always working part-time jobs on the side and busy volunteering my “extra” time to our local church’s music and children’s programs. While I see being a wife and mother as a sacred calling that gives me much joy and fulfillment, there has still been that nagging question in the back of my mind all along, “What am I going to do with myself when I grow up?”  As I get older, I am learning more about my particular spiritual giftings and calling.  I do not feel that being a mother is the end-all of my calling, just as being a husband and father is not the end-all of Logan’s calling.  The harvest is great, but the workers are few.  God has work for all of us to do!

There have been a few specific times since seminary that the question of women in leadership has come up for me, but I wont share the details here.  At one point, I wrote to my college mentors and was sent this excellent article called “Correcting Caricatures,” written by the president of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary when Logan and I were there, and who is a respected authority on the Old Testament.  A must read!

So that brings us up to this past winter.  After I read, “How I Changed My Mind,” I borrowed this book from my Aunt Linda:

J. Lee Grady gives an impassioned plea to the Church to release women in ministry.  As a Southern Baptist pastor and journalist, and the father of four daughters, Grady’s approach is fiery.  He battles age-old discrimination against women and offers interpretations to “difficult passages” that counter the hierarchical view, as well as story after story of women in history who God has used very powerfully in ministry.  These examples were striking to me.  It began to be very clear to me that either there are thousands of exceptions to “the rule,” or there is no rule at all!
For conservative Evangelicals, there is a tendency to see an Egalitarian viewpoint as stemming from Feminism, which is a movement that has been fueled by hatred towards men.  They see Egalitarianism as an attack on God’s designed order for the Church and home.  Women who pursue public ministry are seen as inappropriately trying to seize control or power, and those who offer a differing interpretation of Paul’s teaching on women are said to be rewriting Scripture to fit their agenda.  I have become very sensitive about resistance to women in ministry, mostly because I have seen how wounding this resistance is to well-meaning women who only want to serve the Lord with their God-given giftings.  Their motivation is not hatred, anger, or power.  It is love for God and his Church.  A couple years ago, I was listening to a preacher on the radio say that he had many friends who believed in women pastors, and he was open minded about their viewpoint.  They could do it their way, but he was going to do it God’s way!  I can assure that the Egalitarians who wrote “How I Changed My Mind,” “Ten Lies,” and “Correcting Caricatures” are also trying to do things God’s way.  I hearken back to every one’s need for humility!  It is frustrating to be misunderstood and unfairly characterized by one’s brothers and sisters in Christ.
I was sharing some of my thoughts on women in ministry with “Tammy from Texas” last month, and she recommended that I read, “Why Not Women?”  So I did!  It opens with an important point.  You can have sound logic that is untrue because it is based on a false premise.  When a single verse of Scripture is singled out and then we presuppose the author’s intent and build a superstructure of belief on that foundation, it can all sound very logical but may not be true.
This was a fascinating book co-written by Loren Cunningham, who founded YWAM with his wife and has the rare distinction of having ministered in every country in the world and of releasing hundreds of thousands into ministry, and by David Joel Hamilton, a scholar of ancient languages and cultures who has studied this issue comprehensively and in-depth–his thesis on this subject cites over 400 sources!  It was quite remarkable to read Hamilton’s analysis on Jesus’ and Paul’s teaching on women in regards to how the ancient vs. modern reader would understand it.  The technical aspects of the grammar, syntax, etc. are clearly explained so that you come away with the understanding that Paul never intended for a hierarchy of authority in the Church or for women to be excluded from public ministry, even the pastorate.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read this book!  Especially if you find yourself on the other side of the debate from myself.  It is important to test the Scriptures and see if what you believe is correct, and we need help to do so as ‘modern’ readers.
So here I am, at the end of this mental journey, with conclusions that place me squarely in the Egalitarian camp.  I understand that this is not an issue on most people’s minds…but I passionately believe that it is a critical issue and I hope that I have helped you in some way with your own personal journey toward understanding God’s heart in this issue.