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Seven Minute Seminary: Why Women Must Learn in Quietness and Submission

This is an amazing discovery by Dr. Gary Hoag that sheds light on Paul’s meaning in 1 Timothy 2.  My imperfect transcription of this video is below.  

Why Women Must Learn in Quietness and Submission: Xenophon of Ephesus and 1 Timothy 2 (Gary Hoag)

I’d like to share this brief segment on my monograph that has come out through the BBRS Supplement Series entitled, “Wealth in Ancient Ephesus in the First Letter to Timothy: Fresh Insights from Ephesiaca by Xenophon of Ephesus.”

Let me give you some background for this research.  I was interested in doing doctoral research in riches in One Timothy, and in doing so I found myself serving the literature and finding that the debate swirled around rare language.  My advisor, Phil Towner, suggested that I look at ancient material.  It was also strongly advised to me by Abraham Malarby, that I read rather than search ancient material anything linked to ancient Ephesus.

In that journey, I looked at numismatic, I looked at epigraphic, and a lot of different pieces of literary evidence.  And while looking in a Greek anthology, I stumbled on a story called “Ephesiaca” authored by Xenophon of Ephesus.  And when I was studying it, I found that it was deemed as second or third century literature when it was first scrutinized by scholars in the early 1700’s.  And so for that reason, it’s been largely overlooked in New Testament scholarship.

It has not been until recently, in 1996, that a scholar named James O’Sullivan relocated it to approximately 50 AD, which is right about the same timeframe that Paul was headquartered in Ephesus, according to Luke’s “Acts of the Apostles.”  Paul was centered there perhaps around 52-54.  So, largely what I stumbled on was essentially a literary document from the same general timeframe as the ministry of Paul.

And so, this book, this monograph, is essentially my use, using a sociorhetorical methodology, so my lens for analyzing this text alongside the biblical text in the sociorehtorical methodology of Ernan Robbins.  And in the manuscript, I introduce Xenophon of Ephesus, I describe the methodology, and I use it to create a zitzen laben of the world of the wealthy of Ephesus based on all other evidence we have available to us, and “Ephesiaca,”  showing that he adds to our knowledge and understanding of life in Ephesus in the first century.

And so, for this little piece, I just want to give you a sampling of what is gained from looking at the biblical text with assistance of other ancient evidence in the form of “Ephesiaca” by Xenophon of Ephesus.

I’m going to read a passage of Scripture that is often disputed where riches are in view.  The text is 1 Timothy 2:9-15.  It reads, “…also that the women should dress themselves modestly and decently in suitable clothing, not with their hair plaited or with gold,  pearls or expensive clothes,  but with good works, as is proper for women who profess reverence for God. Let a woman learn in silence with full submission.  I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.  For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.  Yet she will be saved through child bearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.”

Now this is a complex passage, which has been used by many to talk about the role of women in ministry.  And when looking at this passage alongside additional evidence provided to me by “Ephesiaca,” what I discovered was, in scrutinizing that passage where wealth was in view, where hair is plaited with gold and pearls, I found that this coiffure, this hairstyle, can be linked with “Ephesiaca,” to the hairstyle all women would wear to show their piety to the goddess Artemis.

So what it seems that Paul and the author of 1 Timothy may be saying to women in the Ephesian context, is to adorn themselves modestly and with discretion, not with this hairstyle associated with the goddess, but with good deeds, or, in other words, good works that come with a cost, to show their piety toward God.

Now, where this fits in the literary co-text, is that young women in Ephesus, according to my research, would have not learned in silence, but learned daily in the temple precincts through, like, incantation and reciting prayers.   Learned prayers, so that visitors from around the ancient world who would come to the Artemisiam  to hear stories, such as how Artemis was the mother of all life, and so it would be like, in modern terms, they were visiting the Creation Museum to hear how the origin of the world, the origin of life, came through Artemis.

And how do we know this?   Posaneous, in his guide to Greece, says the Hepta Themata, the seven sites, the seven wonders of the ancient world, number two, the penultimate site is the Artemisium, this grand temple where visitors from all over the world would go and visit.

And why would they go there?  To pay their respects to Artemis, who watched over the wealth of the kings of the earth.  And so it was in many ways like a Wall Street of the ancient world.  But they would go there also because she was viewed as the mother of all life.

And so, what’s interesting when you look at this text in light of this additional evidence, you find that what really might be happening here is women, who were trained from a young age to promote the Artemis myth – that Artemis was the mother of all life and that Artemis was, that it wasn’t woman but through man that sin entered the world.  That’s what the Artemis/Diana/Isis myth promoted–these women are basically being told that in the house of God, we don’t continue to promote this myth.

Now, what I think is most fascinating is, people who have used this text to talk about the role of women in ministry, have wrestled with what do we do with, saved through this act of child bearing at the end.  Well, interestingly, Artemis, because she helped her mother, in Greek anthology, she helped her mother Leto deliver her twin brother Apollo, she became known as the goddess of child bearing.  So the social pressure on women was that, if I don’t remain loyal to the goddess, I’m going to die during child bearing.

And so what’s so beautiful in this text, is the author of 1 Timothy is saying squarely to young women an Ephesian context, you don’t have to dress like the goddess.  Do good deeds to show your loyalty is elsewhere, toward the God of heaven.

Oh and by the way, I don’t permit ladies who, maybe have this pagan background, to come in and teach that–and I prefer the rendering of the Kroegers on that Greek word authentein, not as “authority over man” but as “author of man”—I do not permit a woman to teach that she is the author of man, for Adam was created first, then Eve.

In other words, it’s helping women understand a proper view of origin, a proper view of where sin came from.  And, they don’t have to fear that they’re going to die during child bearing, but they are going to be preserved through child bearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with modesty.

So that’s an example of how this fresh evidence, “Ephesiaca” by Xenophon of Ephesus, speaks to difficult texts.  And I hope you find this research helpful, not only in the passage 1 Timothy 2:9-15, but also in four other passages where riches come into view.


Thank you for your research on this topic, Dr. Hoag!  And thank you, readers, for visiting TBKW.  Come again, and “Like” us on FB if you’d like more articles on biblical equality in your news feed.  We post interesting things there from around the web every day.

 

David Logan on Tribal Leadership and how this talk relates to church cultures

I listened to this Ted Talk by David Logan on “Tribal Leadership” a couple years ago and have thought about it frequently since.  Logan’s insights into our natural tendency to form tribes and the cultural stages that these tribes typify have had me looking at the faith communities in my area with new eyes.  I think this is a helpful talk to all in ministry, whether as a lay person or paid clergy.

You should listen to the full talk to hear Logan’s helpful illustrations and stories, but for quick reference, here are my notes:

All of you are members of tribes.  People form tribes.  They always have.  They always will.  It’s just what we do. But not all tribes are the same, and the difference is the culture.

Stage One – “Life Sucks”

Stage One produces people who do horrible things.  The culture of gangs and prisons.  One is a group where people systematically sever relationships from functional tribes, and then pool together with people who think like they do. We don’t often deal with Stage One, but we need to. It’s not enough to simply write people off.

As people see the world, so they behave.

Stage Two – “My Life Sucks”

The Stage Two culture makes people dumb.  You find these tribes in the best organizations in the world. You find them in all places in society.  If that’s how you talked, imagine what kind of work would get done. What kind of innovation would get done? The amount of world-changing behavior that would happen? In fact it would be basically nil.

Stage Three – “I’m Great…and You’re Not”

Stage Three is where most of us move and park and stay.  Imagine having a whole room of people saying, in effect, “I’m great and you’re not.” Or, “I’m going to find some way to compete with you and come out on top as a result of that.” The greatest challenge we face in innovation is moving people from Stage Three to Stage Four.

Stage Four – “We’re Great”

When individuals come together and find something that unites them that’s greater than their individual competence, then something very important happens.  The group gels.  And it changes from a group of highly motivated but fairly individually-centric people into something larger, into a tribe that becomes aware of its own existence.  Stage Four tribes can do remarkable things. 

Stage Five – “Life is Great”

Stage Five is where you really change the world.  It is the stage of Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King Jr., and Gandhi.  This is a scene from the Truth and Reconciliation process in South Africa for which Desmond Tutu won the Nobel Prize. Terrible atrocities had happened in the society, and people came together focused only on those two values: truth and reconciliation.  In this atmosphere, where the only guidance was people’s values and their noble cause, what this group accomplished was historic.  Largely because people like Desmond Tutu set up a Stage Five process to involve the thousands and perhaps millions of tribes in the country, to bring everyone together. 

There are counter-intuitive findings that come out of all this.

The first finding is that leaders need to be able to talk all the levels so that you can touch every person in society.  People can only understand the language of stages one step away.  You don’t leave them where you find them, though.  You nudge them forward to the next level by getting them in a new tribe and then, over time, getting them connected.  

2% of tribes are at Stage One, 25% are at Stage Two, 48% are at Stage Three, 22% are at Stage Four, and only 2% get to Stage Five. 

I’d like to encourage you to do something beyond what people normally do and call networking. Which is not just to meet new people and extend your reach, extend your influence, but instead, find someone you don’t know, and find someone else you don’t know, and introduce them. That’s called a triadic relationship.

People who build world-changing tribes do that. They extend the reach of their tribes by connecting them, not just to myself, so that my following is greater, but I connect people who don’t know each other to something greater than themselves. 

We all form tribes, all of us. If you do what we’ve talked about, you listen for how people actually communicate in the tribes that you’re in.  And you don’t leave them where they are.  You nudge them forward.  You remember to talk all five culture stages.  And the question that I’d like to leave you with is this:

Will your tribes change the world?


Some questions to consider as you think about your church tribe:

  • Has my tribe parked in Stage Three?  Does “I’m Great…and You’re Not” sound like the kind of talk happening in my church?
  • Does my church tribe make connections with other church or organizational tribes on the basis of shared values and goals to accomplish great things?
  • Do I speak the language of all tribal stages, nudging people in my tribe forward gently and helping them get connected in ways that advance their development?
  • Does my tribe write people off who are not at the same stage?
  • What are the values held by my tribe?

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Clint Smith: The danger of silence

This is a very powerful TED Talk from slam poet and educator Clint Smith, on the danger of keeping silent in the face of injustice.  Take five minutes today and be inspired to read critically, write consciously, speak clearly, and tell your truth.  I’ve also copied the transcript for you from TED.com.


http://www.ted.com/talks/clint_smith_the_danger_of_silence

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., in a 1968 speech where he reflects upon the Civil Rights Movement, states, “In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.”

As a teacher, I’ve internalized this message. Every day, all around us, we see the consequences of silence manifest themselves in the form of discrimination, violence, genocide and war. In the classroom, I challenge my students to explore the silences in their own lives through poetry. We work together to fill those spaces, to recognize them, to name them, to understand that they don’t have to be sources of shame. In an effort to create a culture within my classroom where students feel safe sharing the intimacies of their own silences, I have four core principles posted on the board that sits in the front of my class, which every student signs at the beginning of the year: read critically, write consciously, speak clearly, tell your truth.

And I find myself thinking a lot about that last point, tell your truth. And I realized that if I was going to ask my students to speak up, I was going to have to tell my truth and be honest with them about the times where I failed to do so.

So I tell them that growing up, as a kid in a Catholic family in New Orleans, during Lent I was always taught that the most meaningful thing one could do was to give something up, sacrifice something you typically indulge in to prove to God you understand his sanctity. I’ve given up soda, McDonald’s, French fries, French kisses, and everything in between. But one year, I gave up speaking. I figured the most valuable thing I could sacrifice was my own voice, but it was like I hadn’t realized that I had given that up a long time ago. I spent so much of my life telling people the things they wanted to hearinstead of the things they needed to, told myself I wasn’t meant to be anyone’s conscience because I still had to figure out being my own, so sometimes I just wouldn’t say anything, appeasing ignorance with my silence, unaware that validation doesn’t need words to endorse its existence. When Christian was beat up for being gay, I put my hands in my pocket and walked with my head down as if I didn’t even notice. I couldn’t use my locker for weeks because the bolt on the lockreminded me of the one I had put on my lips when the homeless man on the corner looked at me with eyes up merely searching for an affirmation that he was worth seeing. I was more concerned with touching the screen on my Apple than actually feeding him one. When the woman at the fundraising gala said “I’m so proud of you. It must be so hard teaching those poor, unintelligent kids,” I bit my lip, because apparently we needed her money more than my students needed their dignity.

We spend so much time listening to the things people are saying that we rarely pay attention to the things they don’t.Silence is the residue of fear. It is feeling your flaws gut-wrench guillotine your tongue. It is the air retreating from your chest because it doesn’t feel safe in your lungs. Silence is Rwandan genocide. Silence is Katrina. It is what you hear when there aren’t enough body bags left. It is the sound after the noose is already tied. It is charring. It is chains. It is privilege. It is pain. There is no time to pick your battles when your battles have already picked you.

I will not let silence wrap itself around my indecision. I will tell Christian that he is a lion, a sanctuary of bravery and brilliance. I will ask that homeless man what his name is and how his day was, because sometimes all people want to be is human. I will tell that woman that my students can talk about transcendentalism like their last name was Thoreau, and just because you watched one episode of “The Wire” doesn’t mean you know anything about my kids. So this year,instead of giving something up, I will live every day as if there were a microphone tucked under my tongue, a stage on the underside of my inhibition. Because who has to have a soapbox when all you’ve ever needed is your voice?

Thank you.


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